5/7/15---MY IDEA OF A POSSIBLE ANCESTOR---- HUGH FATHER OF RICHARD
OBJECTIVE---To find ancestors of Richard le Bel of Priors Dean, Hants. Le Bel
family also connected to Frensham Manor, Surrey.
I have identified a possible ancestor in Hugh of Kevelioc, possibly the father of Richard le Bel. We have a court case which may identify the family, and we know Richard's wife. We know a later Richard le Bel owned land in Mapledurham and Priors Dean. Our objective is to identify ancestor of Richard le Bel.
1)- Domesday returns show Maplederham (Buriton and Petersfield) belonged
to Queen Matilda...this plus Priors Dean, all belonged to William the
Conqueror in 1086.
Priors Dean is placed among the king's lands, known as "Terra Regis"...
see ppg. 54-55. --------(dna 19 p.169)
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2)- Richard Le Bel owned a house with orchard and over 60 acres of land in Priors Dean. In addition, he owned two 60 acre lots in Mapledurham. Thus he was a substantial landowner in the king's lands.
evanrandolph3doc and Peter Day email 1/9/14------(dna14 PD tab
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plus pp.102-103 of following link:
(dna19 p.105 and p.170)
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3)- Confirmation by Henry III to Southwick Priory of Priors Dean which had been in the hands of his father , King John. Witness list included Richard, son of Hugh.
Dropbox, KINGSPLEAS, Southwick pages 39 and 40-------(dna14
PD tab pp.79-81 and dna19 pp.171, 129)
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4)- Hugh of Kevelioc, the great great grandson of William the Conqueror
(see graph below).
Hugh had a son Richard.
Hugh had a daughter Matilda/Maud. On her webpage it states " That Richard is a son of Earl Hugh, Matilda's father, is recorded in the Domesday Descendants."
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5)- 1266- Richard le Bel from Priors Dean, Hants. Family served King
John. See details from 1266 court case: http://www.geobeale.com/GB44.htm
"We discovered a 1266 Winchester Castle Court case in which Richard le Bel states that he (and others) and their ancestors had lived in Priors Dean, Hants and served King John."
Court case records in Latin- dropbox Kingspleas DSC 1 - 87---- (dna19p.49, PD 4/5/14 and 4/23/14)
case record recap in English- dropbox Kingspleas Southwick folder 12-13----( dna19p.42)
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see evanrandolph5.doc for Peter Day's 4/5/14 letter covering these findings.
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WAS RICHARD LE BEL THE SON OF HUGH OF KEVELIOC? HERE IS HOW THAT MIGHT WORK:
B)- ALICE SUMERY/SOMERY MARRIED RICHARD LE BEL--
1)- Alice Sumery married Richard le Bel. Her father was John de Sumery. Her brother was Warner de Sumeri.
(dna19 p.166,133 and dna14PD tab 22Apr14-p.91)
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2)- Warner de Sumeri and Alicia de Sumeri donated lands to set up Battle Abbey prior 1094 on the sight of the battle of Hastings. Abbey was established during the time of William the Conqueror----
(dna19 p.134-135 and pp.137-138).
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3)- John de Somery, lord of Dudley, was connected to the Sumeri family.-----
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4)- Alice Sumery's family ties to owners of Mapleduraham/Priors
A)- Alice Sumery's uncle was Gervas Paynel-----
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B)- Gervas Paynel's 's neice Isabel (who owned Priors Dean and Mapledurham) married Prince John, later King John. John took over his wife's property. --------
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We note the sister of Alice Sumery's aunt Isabel Paynel married William Fitz Robert, 2nd earl of Gloucester (owner of Mapledurham/Priors Dean- see also Graph D below for owners of Mapledurham/Priors Dean)
C)- Alice Sumery's nephew Roger de Somery married Nicole d'Aubigny----
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D)- Nicole d'Aubigney was Hugh of Kevelioc's granddaughter, Richard le Bel's neice.----
(dna19 pp.132, 151)
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C)- LINK TO PLANTAGENETS---
1)- Richard le Bel's mother's great grandfather Simon I de Montfort was related to the Plantagenet Kings:
2)- Richard le Bel's father's great grandfather Henry I was related to the Plantagenet Kings:
D)- OWNERS OF MAPLEDURHAM AND PRIORS DENE ( "Terra Regis"):--------
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1)- The uncle of Hugh of Kevelioc (William Fitz Robert, 2nd earl of Glou.) owned Mapledurham, and it passed down through King John to the family. Hugh's uncle's daughter Mable married Hugh's wife's brother Amauri de Montfort. Their son Amaury VI was the owner of Mapledurham/Priors Dene. Aumary VI was Richard le Bel's first cousin. This gives Richard le Bel a close connection to the property, and explains Richard's large holdings there.
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