NEW DATA 12 APRIL 2014--
MAJOR NEW FIND--RICHARD LE BEL FAMILY LIVED PRIORS DEAN (HANTS) FOR MANY YEARS--
1)- We discovered a 1266 Winchester Castle Court case in which Richard
le Bel states that he (and others) and their ancestors had lived in Priors
Dean, Hants and served King John. They objected to being taxed more.
They won the case.
dna 16--p.105, dna14--PD tab 3/16 email
A history of the united parishes of Colmer and Priors Dean. [With] Addenda ... By Thomas Hervey---1891
The list of those in the case were 14 people, listed first "50 Henry,
son of King John"(this dates the document 1266), next on list was "Richard
dna 14-PD tab, 4/5/14 notes
THIS DATA STATES RICHARD LE BEL SERVED KING JOHN AND WAS CLOSE TO KING.
2)- We note that Henry III, son of King John was born 1207 at Winchester Castle.
IT APPEARS KING JOHN GAVE LAND IN PETESFIELD, HANTS TO RICHARD LE BEL AND TO FULK DE CANTILUPE AT THE SAME TIME (CA 1200). ALL THREE MEN WERE LE BELS. WE NOTE JOHN'S MARRIAGE TO ISABEL OF GLOUCESTER CA 1189 (she previously owned this land). IT APPEARS JOHN GRABBED THE LAND FROM HIS WIFE AND GAVE IT TO HIS COUSINS/FAMILY.
3)- We remembered Richard le Bel in a land swap with Bishop Godfrey
de Lucy in Bentley, Hants. Godfrey was Bishop of Winchester 1188-1204, he
was located in Winchester Cathedral (1/2 mile from Winchester Castle).
Bishop Godfrey worked closely with King John who ruled 1199-1216.
Richard Le Bel great nephew of Ralph of Fermesham (between 1189 and 1204).
dna#13--res.p.6, PD p. 26
Translation of the land swap latin text indicates that Richard le Bel served
the Bishop of Winchester as a Knight.
4)- Richard le Bel appears to have received land in Petersfield, Hants at the time of King John:
"The reign of Henry II. would seem to be the
time (Henry II ruled 1154-1189)
of general settlement in this neighbourhood. The
terraces of Nursted, of Petersfield, were now for the
first time tilled by the monks. Philip(sic) le Bel endowed (Richard le Bel gifted ca 1272/3)
Durford with Ditcham.f The lowlands of Liss were
also pastured by another convent, but Selborne Priory
was only founded in the reign of King John.
And now the sturdy little borough of Petersfield
drew its first breath. The charter of Hawisa, Countess (of Gloucester, mother of wife of Prince John, and her grandson Amary mar Millicent, whose second husband was William de Cantilupe-see below. Both John and Cantilupe were le Bel's).
" Henricus Hosatus secundus," as he is termed
in the charter (Henry Huse 2nd)
of Bp. Seyffridd, almost in royal style.(Seyffrid II was Bishop of Chichester 1180-1204)
f Ricardus le Bel of Peteresfeld. Grant to
Church of Durford
of all his land, " De Dicham in Manerio de Mapuldreham," (Dicham = Ditcham)
Charter of Durford, f. 89."---dna#15 p.8 (land grant 1273 I Edw I)--dna#14-PD tab-ltr 11 Feb 14
"DITCHAM (Dicham, xiii cent.; Dycheham,
xvi cent.) was probably included under the heading of Mapledurham in the Domesday
Book, as in subsequent grants the land of 'Dicham' is described as being situated
in the manor of Mapledurham. (fn. 119) In the reign of Henry III Henry Hoese
or Hussey, lord of the neighbouring manor of Harting (co. Sussex), received
from Richard de Ditcham a grant of all his land of Ditcham, and about the same
time gained possession of a tenement in Ditcham formerly held by Richard
le Bel. After acquiring this property he granted it in free alms to the
abbot and convent of Dureford, (fn. 120) and his grant was confirmed by Richard
le Bel himself in 1272. (fn. 121)"----dna14-p.
216 (land grant 1273 I Edw I)
5)- We note Hamelin's (a le Bel) cousin Fulk
de Cantilupe (a le Bel) was given Oxenbourn,
Hants by King John (a le Bel):
1 King John, when carl of Moruin, (1199/1200)
granted land in Oxenbourn to Fulk de
Cantilupe to be held by service to the
bishop of Winchester, and after John's
accession Fulk gave him two palfries to
obtain a confirmation of this grant (Rot.
de oblatii et fnibus, 317; Close, 7 John,
m. 1 6 ; Chart. R. 7 John, m. 7).
We note Oxenbourn is in Petersfield, Hants where Richard le Bel lived.
6)- We note Fulk's nephew William de Cantilupe was given part
of Mapledurham by the King in 1217:
15 Mar. 1217, for on that
day the king ordered Roger to give a
reasonable dowry from the manor of
Mapledurham to William de Cantilupe
the younger, who had married Millicent
widow of Aumary (Rot. Lin. Claus. i,
7)- Various men named Richard le Bel lived over te years in Ditcham and Weston, part of the Mapledurham estate.
NEW DISCOVERY---JAMES LE BEL MENTIONS EDWARD OF WESTMINSTER (SON OF HEN. III --LE BEL DESCENDANTS) MULTIPLE TIMES--see below:
8)- We note James Le Bel of Frensham, Surrey and Westminster, London
was granted a coat of arms during the time of
Henry III (1216-1272)--three roses (Birch).
The latin text attached to James le Bel's wax seal is in the process of being translated. We note Edward of Westminster
(Edward I- King 1272-1307) is mentioned multiple times in this text. Richard le Bel (brother?) is mentioned once.
dna#15--Gordon Translate tab
9)- James le Bel served Aymer Bishop of Winchester.
James le Bel in 1258 was first on a list of 50 men of Aymer Bishop elect of Winchester. The men were ordered by the Bishop to conduct an assault at the church and Manor of SCHYRE (SHERE). An appeal was issued, King Henry III ordered guardians of the bishopric to make peace with the appellants, saving the King fines, http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/h3v5/body/Henry3vol5page0002.pdf --dna#14 p.340, 341, 247
BELOW SHOWS HOW THESE PEOPLE POSSIBLY RELATE TO EACH OTHER: