Those that held Mapledurham Manor, Hampshire, England, starting with William the Conqueror---in YELLOW
Plantagenets starting with Geoffrey le Bel (who married William's granddaughter)---in BLUE
1)- John married Isabel, countess of Gloucester in 1189. Isabel owned Mapledurham, Hants (originally William the Conqueror gave this property to his wife Maud). John divorced Isabel in 1199 and kept her lands.
2)- Richard of Cornwall 1209-1272 (John's son) married in 1231 Isabel Marshall (granddaughtyer of "Strongbow"--Richard de Clare 1130-1176). Isabel's two sons by a previous marriage (to Gilbert de Clare) inherited Mapledurham in 1248 while Isabel was married to her second husband Richard of Cornwall. Isabel's first husband was an Earl of Gloucester, the Earls of Gloucester had owned Mapledurham for several generations. Richard of Cornwall had a son (or grandson) Richard:
AS YOU READ ABOUT THE TWO RICHARDS, ASK YOURSELF WAS
RICHARD OF CORNWALL(d. 1272) AND RICHARD
LE BEL(d.ca 1272) THE SAME PERSON ?
1)- BOTH RICHARD OF CORNWALL AND RICHARD LE BEL HAD INTERESTS IN MAPLEDURHAM.
2)- BOTH GRANTED PROPERTY TO THE CHURCH OF DURFORD.
3)- BOTH DIED ABOUT THE SAME TIME---1272
DATA ON RICHARD OF CORNWALL:
1)- Richard of Cornwall
A)- 1233 Weston, Mapledurham:
" In September, 1233, Henry III ordered the sheriff of Hampshire to cause his servant Geoffrey de Bathonia to have full seisin of the land which had belonged to Robert de St. Remy in Mapledurham, to hold during the king's pleasure, saving however to Earl Richard, the king's brother, the corn which he caused to be sown in that land, and the stock which he had in it. (fn. 88)" (dna 14, p.215)
B)- 1240 land trade in Bromdene, Hants, 10 miles from Mapledurham:
"[c, 1240.] Confirmation by Bartholomew de Bromdene to the Canons of Dereford [erased, and Selebourne interlined in paler ink] of the grant which his father Hugh de Bromdene made them of the tenement of Bromdene, as the charter which they have specifies. Witnesses : Henry Hussey (" Hosato "), Matthew his son, Elias de la Faleise, William his brother, Ralph de Svnewer^e, Adam de la Bere, John his brother. [55.] Seal lost. [c. 1240-50.] Confirmation from Richard [Plantagenet], Earl of Cornwall and Poitou,^ to the church and Prior and Canons of Seleburne of all the land of Bromdene which Hugh de Bromdene gave them in free alms ; together with all homages, scutages, reliefs, etc., free of all service. the shield within a floriated border ; " Sigillum Ricardi co nubie." (283)
C)- 1248--Richard's wife's children inherited Mapledurham:
Richard of Cornwall must have been very aware of Mapledurham because the sons of his wife inherited the property in 1248. (sons from her previous marriage--Richard married her in 1231) (309, 73)
D)- Richard of Cornwall died 2 April 1272 (317)
DATA ON RICHARD LE BEL:
2)- Richard le Bel of
Ditcham died ca 1272
A)- Before 1246 Durford Abbey:
"Paragraph 184 [Before 1246] Quitclaim by Henry Tylie, son and heir of Philip Tylie, to the abbot and convent of Dureford' and their successors of any right which he had or could have in all the lands and tenements which Philip formerly held of the house of St Lazarus in the manor of Herting', for which they have promised him 4s 6d a year for life at Michaelmas and Easter in equal portions. Because Henry had no seal, he procured that of Richard le Bel to affix. Witnesses [names omitted in MS]" (dna 14, pd tab, p.3)
COMPARE THIS SEAL WITH RICHARD OF CORNWALL SEAL----SEE 1B
B)- Ditcham prior 1272:
"The reign of Henry II. would seem to be the time
of general settlement in this neighbourhood. The
terraces of Nursted, of Petersfield, were now for the
first time tilled by the monks. Philip(sic) le Bel endowed
Durford with Ditcham.f The lowlands of Liss were
also pastured by another convent, but Selborne Priory
was only founded in the reign of King John.
And now the sturdy little borough of Petersfield
drew its first breath. The charter of Hawisa, Countess
" Henricus Hosatus secundus," as he is termed in the charter
of Bp. Seyffridd, almost in royal style.
f Ricardus le Bel of Peteresfeld. Grant to Church of Durford
of all his land, " De Dicham in Manerio de Mapuldreham,"
Charter of Durford, f. 89."---(p. 8)
WHAT DOES FOOTNOTE 89 (ABOVE) SAY ABOUT RICHARD LE BEL?
C)- 1272 Ditcham, Mapledurham:
"DITCHAM (Dicham, xiii cent.; Dycheham, xvi cent.) was probably included under the heading of Mapledurham in the Domesday Book, as in subsequent grants the land of 'Dicham' is described as being situated in the manor of Mapledurham. (fn. 119) In the reign of Henry III Henry Hoese or Hussey, lord of the neighbouring manor of Harting (co. Sussex), received from Richard de Ditcham a grant of all his land of Ditcham, and about the same time gained possession of a tenement in Ditcham formerly held by Richard le Bel. After acquiring this property he granted it in free alms to the abbot and convent of Dureford, (fn. 120) and his grant was confirmed by Richard le Bel himself in 1272. (fn. 121)" (dna14-p. 216)
"265: [On or before 21 Aug 1273] Notification by Richard le Bel of Peteresfeld' that he has given to the church of St Mary and St John the Baptist of Dureford' and the canons there all his land at Dicham in the manor of Mapuldreham. Warranty against all people, Jews as well as Christians. Sealing clause. Witnesses [names omitted in MS]"
"266: 21 Aug 1273. Notification by Richard le Bel of Peteresfeld' that he has attorned William Finamour to put the abbot of Dureford' into possession of his land at Dicham, of which he enfeoffed the abbot and convent by his charter. In witness he has made these letters patent with his seal. Winchester, Monday after the Assumption 1 Edw I."
IS THIS A LE BEL SEAL? COMPARE THIS SEAL WITH OTHERS
Richard le Bel may have died 1272 and given his property to the church.
IT APPEARS THAT POSSIBLY BOTH RICHARD OF CORNWALL AND RICHARD LE BEL OF DITCHAM DIED IN 1272.
PLEASE LOCATE RICHARD OF CORNWALL'S WILL. DOES IT MENTION MAPLEDURHAM/DITCHAM GRANT TO CHURCH OF DURFORD?
DOES DATA ON "OUR CLERK" (SEE BELOW) DESCRIBE EITHER
OF THE RICHARD BEALES LISTED BELOW?
"Richard, called 'our clerk and cousin' by Edward II (Calendar of Chancery Warrants 1244-1326, pp. 379, 386)." .....(307)
4)- Richard le Bel/Beel, vicar of Selebonme/Basingestoke,
"the agreement between the convent of Selebonme and Richard le Beel the vicar (in 1269). That upon the death of the said Richard the said religious shall be freed from payment to the succeeding vicars of the 8 quarters of grain therein stipulated, and the said succeeding vicars shall receive all the tithes from the gardens of the parishioners, notwithstanding that the said religious have received them during the time of the said Richard le Beel. Seal lost."--- (dna 13, p.25)
B)- 1277 vicar Basingstoke (St. Mary's Church):
"as its Vicar, and Richard le Bel, in 1277 a member of a well-known family of that name, located at Frensham, in Surrey." (dna 13, p. 25 and dna 14, p. 152)
C)- 1296 termination of agreement:
"267: 3 Feb 1296. Quitclaim by Richard le Bel and his heirs to the church of St Mary and St John the Baptist of Dureford' and the abbot and convent there of all right and claim which he Had or could have in any way in all the lands and tenements which the abbot and convent hold in the manor of Mapuldreham and of all other actions or claims which he had or could have against them. Sealing clause. Dureford', the feast of St Blaise the Martyr 24 Edw I." (dna 14, pd tab, p4 and p. 152)
5)- Richard le Beel, lived Weston/Mapledurham, wife Joan, died 1346
"WESTON (Westeton and Westreton xiii cent.; Westynton xiv cent.) is
a tithing in the parish of Buriton and seems to have been, to some extent, co-extensive
with the manor of West Mapledurham."--p. 215
"There was also a free tenement in the tithing of Weston which in origin was of the lands of the Normans and not of the honour of Gloucester, as was ascertained by an inquisition taken in the reign of Henry III. (fn. 84)" --p.215
PLEASE CHECK FOOTNOTE 84- CLOSE, 17 HEN III, m. 2
"In the reign of Edward III Richard le Beel and Joan his wife acquired in fee from Margaret the daughter of John de Radyng the moiety of a messuage, 60 acres of land, 4 acres of meadow, and £1 17s. 10½d. rent in Weston without licence. On her husband's death Joan paid to the king a fine of £3, and obtained licence to retain the premises. (fn. 95) Richard le Beel died in 1346, seised of a messuage, 60 acres of arable land, 4 acres of meadow, £1 17s. 10d. rent from free men and villeins, and pleas and perquisites of court worth 6d. per annum in Weston in the manor of Mapledurham. (fn. 96) It has been shown that he had acquired a moiety of the premises from Margaret de Radyng. He probably held the other moiety in right of his wife Joan. (fn. 97) In the inquisition it was stated that Richard held the premises of the king in chief by the service of attending the view of frankpledge twice a year at Mapledurham."------(dna 14, p..215,214)
"Richard at his death was jointly enfeoffed with Joan of the said moiety in chief by the service of coming to the views of frankpledge twice yearly at Mapelderham, and that Richard held other lands in his demesne as of fee in that county, of other lords than the king, by divers services." (dna 14 pd p. 2 and dna 15 p. 115)
Richard "died on 15 April, 20 Edward III (1347). Richard his son, aged 19 years and more, is his next heir." (dna 14, pd, p.1)
PLEASE CHECK Calendar of Chancery Warrants 1244-1326, pp. 379, 386--DOES THE DESCRIPTION OF RICHARD "OUR CLERK" FIT EITHER RICHARD THE VICAR, OR RICHARD LIVING WESTON/MAPLEDURHAM?